tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368739163556879673.post7277966789944261737..comments2023-12-16T00:52:13.957-07:00Comments on Cello Brained!: Lesson #152G: Rhythm Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368739163556879673.post-31043960583907547572019-12-07T22:34:26.654-07:002019-12-07T22:34:26.654-07:00Learning to play the violin is all about the violi...Learning to play the violin is all about the violin techniques. Once you get the basics down pat, you are well on your way. People ask what's the difference between a fiddle and a violin? It's the techniques, not the instrument. <a title="viola app" href="https://violy.app/blog/2019/12/How-to-choose-right-violin-strings/#First-we-need-to-clarify-that-violin-strings-are-consumables" rel="nofollow">viola app</a>Jason Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01542972466616286734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368739163556879673.post-61967377906895316412019-11-22T11:44:22.830-07:002019-11-22T11:44:22.830-07:00As you loosen the string gently pull it away from ...As you loosen the string gently pull it away from the Pegbox as you turn the Peg towards the bottom of the instrument. Then, to tighten, slowly turn the Peg away from you towards the top of the instrument. <a title="violin app" href="https://violy.app/" rel="nofollow">violin app</a>Jason Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01542972466616286734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368739163556879673.post-73710244729146362672014-01-31T14:26:05.005-07:002014-01-31T14:26:05.005-07:00I am beginning to think it may just be one of thos...I am beginning to think it may just be one of those circular references where you can't define one without the other. Until now, I have always thought of note values (and therefore rhythm) as being abstract numbers and ratios that were only important in how the note lengths related to each other, and being somehow capable of existing independent of time like numbers on a page. But you're absolutely right, the note values aren't just relative. They always exist in a span of time. My propensity to make "everything" abstract is probably why I am decent at math, and also why I have terrible rhythm, and consequently am such a abysmal dancer! Its so strange how language can shape understanding and the learning process... Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13223138669791857924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368739163556879673.post-32772649047559712312014-01-30T13:59:30.833-07:002014-01-30T13:59:30.833-07:00WOW - sounds like a great app!!! I'll check it...WOW - sounds like a great app!!! I'll check it out! Lots of great app recommendations lately! :)<br /><br />hmmm, I don't know... I'm applying my definitions of Timing, Pulse and Rhythm mostly to my dancing experience so I don't know if it relates similarly to music?<br /><br />I thought that Timing was in relation to an "event," so if I made a sound in a silent room, then that sound doesn't have much meaning. However, if I was to make a sound, then timed another sound in relation to that one, then there's meaning in the sounds - or at least our brain tries to create meaning! ;) <br />Also, in my dancing experience (Lindy Hop/Swing & Blues dancing) it's better to "lag the beat" (be a little behind the beat) and not on "top of it" (when the beat occurs). So it's better to be "late" in those dances, but playing in a cello ensemble, it's not good to be late on a beat. Therefore, my Timing can be before, on top or after a beat. ....although I'm almost always usually late... ;)<br /><br />I think having a Pulse is an "event" that is reoccurring, which can also be sped up or slowed down. For me, I can't seem keep a steady consistent beat, which is why it's the most difficult for me.<br /><br />However Timing doesn't have to be reoccurring or rely on Pulse. "Abstract" modern music comes to mind... I've heard compositions that have "weird" sounds that also seem to be "random" - but it's the case that my newbie ear can't make sense of it since Timing should be in relation to another occurrence. <br /><br />...so my understanding of Rhythm is that it has to have both Timing and a Pulse. I guess if I were to draw a venn diagram, I would put Timing and Pulse in two separate circles because they can be independent of each other, and then Rhythm would overlap the two. <br /><br />I'm a newbie at rhythm too so my understanding of those terms may be incorrect.<br />Gemini Cellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883738004233218440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368739163556879673.post-29947401042964138652014-01-23T12:14:10.688-07:002014-01-23T12:14:10.688-07:00In my experience, metronomes are like tuning forks...In my experience, metronomes are like tuning forks, and are limited by the development of the ear of the user. Which is why we use tuners until our ear develops sufficiently. Likewise rhythm apps are marvelous at showing us how wrong our sense of metronome accuracy can be. When we start, even our "accurate" claps can be off by large fractions of a second. These errors seem small, but they add up to being off by several seconds over only a few measures once the metronome goes away. At the moment I am in love with the iPad app called "Rhythm Sight Reading Trainer" because it not only tells how off each note is with visual feedback, it also tells you what your cumulative error for a given section is down the hundredth of a second so you can work on reducing your error rate to something manageable enough to play with others. It also highlights in "Orange" the note that you had the most issues with so you can work on it in subsequent attempts. The options menu is very rich and detailed enough to raise or lower the difficulty until you are given nothing but a single measure of intro beats. My girlfriend, who has been intimidated from learning an instrument because of difficulty reading rhythms is also very excited about this app. She has never been able to count, and suddenly she's as competent at reading rhythm as I was after years of playing instruments.<br /><br />I shy away from defining things too strictly because I still consider myself a beginner when it comes to rhythm. To me though, Timing is the most challenging of the three, because you need it generate a Pulse in the absence of a metronome, and also to overlay an abstract Rhythm over a given Pulse which composers often do to keep the music interesting for listeners.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13223138669791857924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368739163556879673.post-60642619330274256312014-01-22T15:02:57.392-07:002014-01-22T15:02:57.392-07:00I've always had issues with rhythm, but I didn...I've always had issues with rhythm, but I didn't realize how EXTREMELY off I was until I discovered I was! ;) <br /><br />I'm discovering that using a metronome or some other external source like a rhythm app helps develop "timing" but not necessarily an internal pulse or rhythm? <br /><br />I think maybe timing is developed first, then pulse, then rhythm? I'll have to think about that more. It would be interesting to know how to develop each one and specific definitions for each as it applies to learning.<br /><br />Anyway, I think my "timing" is okay because I can clap to a metronome "on time," but as soon as it's turned off I'm in trouble! <br /><br />What I want is to feel the pulse in my body so if I were to clap to a metronome and then mute it suddenly, I'd still feel the pulse within my body and keep it going. Then be able to un-mute the metronome and still be in time. Gemini Cellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883738004233218440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4368739163556879673.post-81283829513222322932014-01-20T16:52:47.201-07:002014-01-20T16:52:47.201-07:00Going three years without addressing rhythm isn...Going three years without addressing rhythm isn't so bad. Some of us go decades, and never quite get it. I am just now realizing that an accurate sense of timing, rhythm, and pulse are just as progressively nuanced and important as good intonation. It's just one of those things that you don't really realize how off you are without either years of rhythm focused metronome practice and/or instant feedback from a tuner or a good rhythm training app. Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13223138669791857924noreply@blogger.com